first casualty of the year

well finally consulted a doctor -I usually hate them - lovely elderly fellow from guatemala - fancy that - welcome to OZ I says in me best bush twang - how long have you been here - 27 yrs he says with a laugh - bit to late to welcome you in then says I - anways he pummelled me and used his mini ultra thingy and then said he thought there was no major damage just a bad twist but wanted an immediate ultrasound to confirm presence or absence of blood clots which he was concerned about - you know shooting up to the lungs and lodging. ultrasound done and all clear - well young laddie he says that's it then all clear just sore - keep taking panadol and see ya in 3 mths oh and you can pick some brand new crutches up on the way out! I tried to get endone out of him but he wasn't having that one -too much constipation he said!! ye thanks doc

visited my super friendly chemist in our small town of 9000 who did stock both arnica and tumeric thingys - so started on the arnica first - how long do the bloody things take to be effective FGS I need magic!

You have not adopted the free witchetty grub treatment then.?

I do hope that the arnica stuff works for you but admit to being a bit sceptical.

However - I have known catgate for many years and don't doubt that it works for him. I s'pose any treatment really needs the patient to believe in it.

I am tempted to try the turmeric pills myself - I have a dodgy left knee and have to come down stairs one at a time keeping my left leg stiff. The thing that is off-putting is the advertising blitz about turmeric - you cant pick up a tabloid paper or a magazine without being presented with half page adverts boasting of the efficacy of turmeric+. Its the sort of pitch you might expect from snake oil salesmen.

So best of luck Davo - dodgy knees make you grumpy as I know all too well. Years of begging has now wreaked its toll.

I'm a believer I'm a believer !! :cheers: :cheers:

my son asked me what lessons had a learned [bloody cheek] but I replied in all earnestly - watch where you are walking and walk more carefully - took a lot of thought that did!

I'm just thankful I can still drive

What is your putting like?  

well these days I've almost forgotten where to putt it!

Re. the Arnica.
It has been used (successfully)  in out home for going on for 50 years.

Another excellent homeopathic remedy is A, G, E. (Aconite / Gelsemium / Eupatorium ) for the onset of colds and flu.
Works like magic. Made up in "pillules" and a few doses of "pillules" (one or two taken several hours apart on the onset of symptoms) and the  flu just gives in and disappears.

still using it at the mo and will report on results later - there could be a Phd in the offing here!!

catgate wrote:

Re. the Arnica.
It has been used (successfully)  in out home for going on for 50 years.

Another excellent homeopathic remedy is A, G, E. (Aconite / Gelsemium / Eupatorium ) for the onset of colds and flu.
Works like magic. Made up in "pillules" and a few doses of "pillules" (one or two taken several hours apart on the onset of symptoms) and the  flu just gives in and disappears.

ps: they did sell an arnica ointment alongside the pilules??? well it's coming up 10 dys now and no miraculous cures - I think the doc was hinting that pain was needed to slow me down - ie - removing all pain doesn't mean tissues healed so pain free would mean walking too well on still injured tissue if you get the gist but I think I've turned the corner slowly!! still working on the Phd!

ps: do miss the walk with the dogs in the woods

Well, I am most disappoint at your news.
I suppose the delay between the onset of the "problem" and the application of the "treatment" may have been the reason for the sad news.

I suggest that you get a little tin with a sealing lid, and keep your  homeopathic remedys therein, ready for next time.They have a reasonable shelf life. Not everlasting but certainly a year or two in my experience.

p,s. The ointment is not really true homeopothy. It is a modern "bandwagon" job. If you had put it in you mouth, and sucked it, it may have been a bit nearer the mark!!!

I have had a very sore knee for just about as long as you Dave. I take two Ibuprofen tabs every four hours, it seems to work.
The worst is during the night whilst abed, the pain sometimes spreads to my calf and I have to get up to ease it with a walk around and a mug of coffee.
Homeopathy is a load of crap for the gullible amongst us.

well there have been several confounding variables in the whole equation which I will report on eventually but will finish the pilutes and then report back - but I do realize that there has been serious tissue damage around the knee joint if not within it and this needs time to heal - 2- 3 mths was the medics opinion.

"Homeopathy is a load of crap for the gullible amongst us."


What was it that did not work for you Malcolm?

What did not work for me was the total lack of science involved with the remedies....very similar to the 'acupuncture' nonsense that sticking needles in your skin will provide a cure for your ills.
Science and medical knowledge brought about through research is what I believe in.

malcolm wrote:

What did not work for me was the total lack of science involved with the remedies....very similar to the 'acupuncture' nonsense that sticking needles in your skin will provide a cure for your ills.
Science and medical knowledge brought about through research is what I believe in.

Well I am a scientist, and studied at what is now Bradford University way back in the immediate post war years. I have worked in laboratories for the most of  my working life and was Quality Assurance and Technical Services Manager for a large international company for over 20 years before retiring.

In my early 20s I had a stomach problem which, after much visiting doctors and hospitals,  was diagnosed as an ulcer and I was put on the waiting list and given a very alkaline medicinal concoctment.

In a large house, near my fathers house, was, according to a bronze plaque on his gate, a homeopathic practitioner. I went to see him and see what homeopathy could do for me.

I will not go into every little detail. I shall simply say that after half a dozen weekly visits to his lair I could once again eat everything that was put before me without any discomfort. The result of this encounter lead to the building up of a friendship that lasted until, after another 40 years, he failed to find a remedy to cure his own  death (he died at 86).

I have since only visited doctors for things that require surgery. When my children were ill or injured they too partook of homeopathic nonsense  and also benefited from it.

During the years of our weekly social visiting my parents and him and his wife, I learned much from a man who was too down to earth to fool himself and too honest to pull the wool over any eyes (even though there has always been a lot of wool in Bradford).

I am a great believer in the 'whatever works for you ' principle.
Some folks believe anything and everything some visit Lourdes seeking cures for terminal illnesses.
It is relatively new finding that the real culprit of 'stomach' or duodenal ulceration is a Gram-neg bacterial infection 'Helicobacter Pylori' now completely curable with targeted anti-biotic treatment.
No amount of homeopathic treatments have ever been found to kill off gram neg bacteria as I am sure you will agree.
My father died in hospital following surgery for duodenal ulceration, after contracting peritonitis.