Austria to ban full-face veil in public places

Why do the women who wear this letterbox headgear wear so much makeup on their eyes?


Because that is the only bit that they can get at.

the ME peoples are very sensual and sexual behind closed doors they just don't believe in flouting it about in pubic! women in full body coverage are now allowed to roam the streets once they were in harems and never seen the outside world at all. there have been many advances but they won't make advances at us!

catgate wrote:

Why do the women who wear this letterbox headgear wear so much makeup on their eyes?


Because that is the only bit that they can get at.

The weirdest one I ever saw was in an online article about something or other .... wearing sunglasses.

Being guests  in our country and drawing our attention to the fact, blatantly, that they are fundamental practising Muslims when others members of their faith are butchering children in their homelands is offensive to me in the extreme.

Hardly any round our way--very rarely see them.

hang on a minute most of these women aren't guests in UK they are uk citizens - they are entitled to wear what they wish - the anti discrimination laws say no one can discriminate on the grounds of religion, race, sex etc etc - come on gentlemen [and women if there are any here] were is your sense of chivalry and respect of women and children??

I respect women and children who live here and walk the streets of the UK.
As a womanly pig I find the idea of walking around in a body bag, usually because your husband or father expects you to, is a throwback to the Dark Ages.
If they choose to kowtow, okay .. but it shouldn't be considered the norm here.

sags wrote:

I respect women and children who live here and walk the streets of the UK.
As a womanly pig I find the idea of walking around in a body bag, usually because your husband or father expects you to, is a throwback to the Dark Ages.
If they choose to kowtow, okay .. but it shouldn't be considered the norm here.

many Muslim women choose the hijab because it is their personal choice without their husbands view - what is the norm in UK these days - it is certainly not the social mores of the 40's 50's or even sixties - God look at some of the trash clothes some young people walk around in.

in many Muslim countries the men were a male hijab as well. England is no longer the England we all grew up  in and loved - it will always be changing. You may not like some of the changes but there is no need to be disrespectful to women and their clothing.

davo wrote:

hang on a minute most of these women aren't guests in UK they are uk citizens - they are entitled to wear what they wish - the anti discrimination laws say no one can discriminate on the grounds of religion, race, sex etc etc - come on gentlemen [and women if there are any here] were is your sense of chivalry and respect of women and children??

Whether they are citizens or immigrants is irrelevant.  All people should be recognisable in public.  It is far too easy to commit a crime and be unrecognisable when wearing a face mask.  Why do you think criminals cover their faces up when robbing a bank or business?

Here is a female point of view - admittedly a rather old female who can remember when women were ladies and men were gentlemen.

I share the views expressed by others here that those who wear - or make their women wear (which is probably more the case) are disrespectful of British values and it should be banned in public. 

They are the same people who take people to court for wearing a necklace which has a Christian cross.

They are the same people to are so offended by us celebrating Christmas that they have caused Birmingham council to refer to it as Winterval.

They are the same people who denigrate and threaten violence to Gays and trans gender people

They are the same people who go to work at a supermarket knowing full well that they will be required to serve customers alcohol or pork then refuse to do so quoting their human rights and religion. To make matters worse - we let them get away with it.

They are the same people who preach hatred to their kids in both the family, faith schools and mosques that harbour terrorism.

They are the same people who were so impressed by British values and our way of life that they came to live here. Then set about trying to reconstruct our society to make it like the filthy, corrupt and lawless country they fled from

The political elite and the luvvie liberals in our society have allowed this pernicious disease to spread amongst us because they are unaffected by having to live with them. Its us ordinary folk who have to suffer the consequences. You don't see many walking bin bags is the shire counties or Cotswold country.

The next few years are going to see a radical change in Europe. The Dutch will probably lead the way followed by the East Europeans with right wing governments taking over and the inflow of Muslims curtailed and the reinstatement of traditional values in society. It is inevitable - I'm glad that I will not be here to have to live through the social unrest that it will engender.

Very well said dizzy. I agree 100%

Crikey Dizzy - which side of the bed did you get out of this morning.

You will have to start shopping in the new Waitrose in Solihull - you must be 
a nervous wreck whilst you are shopping at Aldi and Iceland in Acocks Green amidst a sea of bin bags.

I do agree with you though - and congratulations at not copping a groan from andsome...

Dizzy wrote:

Here is a female point of view - admittedly a rather old female who can remember when women were ladies and men were gentlemen.

I share the views expressed by others here that those who wear - or make their women wear (which is probably more the case) are disrespectful of British values and it should be banned in public. 

They are the same people who take people to court for wearing a necklace which has a Christian cross.

They are the same people to are so offended by us celebrating Christmas that they have caused Birmingham council to refer to it as Winterval.

They are the same people who denigrate and threaten violence to Gays and trans gender people

They are the same people who go to work at a supermarket knowing full well that they will be required to serve customers alcohol or pork then refuse to do so quoting their human rights and religion. To make matters worse - we let them get away with it.

They are the same people who preach hatred to their kids in both the family, faith schools and mosques that harbour terrorism.

They are the same people who were so impressed by British values and our way of life that they came to live here. Then set about trying to reconstruct our society to make it like the filthy, corrupt and lawless country they fled from

The political elite and the luvvie liberals in our society have allowed this pernicious disease to spread amongst us because they are unaffected by having to live with them. Its us ordinary folk who have to suffer the consequences. You don't see many walking bin bags is the shire counties or Cotswold country.

The next few years are going to see a radical change in Europe. The Dutch will probably lead the way followed by the East Europeans with right wing governments taking over and the inflow of Muslims curtailed and the reinstatement of traditional values in society. It is inevitable - I'm glad that I will not be here to have to live through the social unrest that it will engender.

Oh well said Dizzy ... I agree with all of that. Every single word.

All that was missing was to add .... Welcome to Britanistan at the end... the new flourishing centre of regressive and repressive Islam culture.
And don't mistakenly go to post a letter through the slot of the black pillar boxes seen on the streets. Traditionally they are red.

davo wrote:

sags wrote:

I respect women and children who live here and walk the streets of the UK.
As a womanly pig I find the idea of walking around in a body bag, usually because your husband or father expects you to, is a throwback to the Dark Ages.
If they choose to kowtow, okay .. but it shouldn't be considered the norm here.

many Muslim women choose the hijab because it is their personal choice without their husbands view - what is the norm in UK these days - it is certainly not the social mores of the 40's 50's or even sixties - God look at some of the trash clothes some young people walk around in.

in many Muslim countries the men were a male hijab as well. England is no longer the England we all grew up  in and loved - it will always be changing. You may not like some of the changes but there is no need to be disrespectful to women and their clothing.

British tradition and culture does not ascribe to women been subjugated and suffering a subservient role to men... in other words, been doormats.

Bear in mind .. whilst supporting their rights to freedom over here .. that in Saudi Arabia women are campaigning for the right to drive a car.
Nor can they open a bank account without their husbands permission.
Are unable to obtain a passport of leave the country without their husbands, or father's or a male relative's permission.
Wear clothes or make-up that show off their beauty.
Are obliged to use separate entrances to banks and other public buildings.
Are segregated at beaches, swimming baths and any other amusement venues.

Even more petty, some magazines are censored .. glamour, fashion ad beauty...
All against the Law.

I'd never support any culture who practised this and definitely don't want even minor changes to wheedle their way into acceptance over here.
Sounds too much like Apartheid to me.

well I'm glad we got all that off of our chests - the British [well at least on here] remain as bigoted as ever! Yes England will decidedly be a different place in he future and hopefully with less bigots!

Australia continues to be one of the most if not the most successful multicultural country in the world and we place no restrictions on mode of dress by any member of society and yet we seem to flourish well - I wonder why - well  because we are all immigrants is one reason - no one except an Indigenous person can say this is my land and therefore these are my rules.

You are all sounding like great supporters for Donald Trump - I am sure he would  love you all on his team!

Oh piffle, don't sound so stroppy .. here we go with the usual accusation of calling anyone who has concerns about Islam a bigot.
No one has said ...it is my land ..
I'm saying I was born on this sod of soil and so am accustomed to Western culture, Equality Laws and it's social values I was raised with. I therefore assume anyone who wants to live here would happily adopt them .. and for the same reason I would never go and live in the Middle East.


Multiculturalism hasn't gone well for Britain. 
Perhaps it has for Australia? You could be right. I do remember after you had your own terrorist attack in that café a couple of years back that a great many Aussies started a FB page offering to chaperone frightened Muslims about who were afraid for their safety.
I assume then that more Muslims will prefer to go there then and will be welcomed by Australia. 

It seems a good solution... though whether Trump is still having all those immigrants that Turnbull doesn't want still seems undecided.